I hosted an event for ModernGov on Open Access earlier in the week. I talked a fair but about the Jisc Open Access Pathfinder projects and of course majored on E2EOA. Everyone was very excited about the prospect of a series of workshops. One particular issue that came out was the HEFCE Open Access Policy for the next REF – almost universally people felt that using the acceptance date (rather than publication date) to start the clock ticking was unworkable. I wonder if HEFCE will reconsider this position, as I have heard many others (for example at the ARMA conference in Blackpool) express this concern – particularly those with existing systems.